A huge kumbh (religious gathering) of Hindus is on the cards on February 11, 12 and 13, 2006. Named Shabrikumbh it promises to be an unprecedented assembly of awakened Hindus. The Kumbh will be the culmination of sustained efforts towards awakening the Hindus in general and the vanavasi Hindus in the Dang region of Gujarat in particular.
Vanavasi Hindus target of Christian missionary offensive
For long, Bharat has been a special target of the Christian Church worldwide. To the Church, the Hindus represent the greatest stumbling block in their grand design to establish Christs kingdom on earth. The poor, illiterate, mild Vanvasi Hindu is an obvious target in this nefarious scheme. For years, under the garb of social service, the Church has been spreading its tentacles in far-flung, tribal regions of our country. These converted vanavasis become alienated from their customs and traditions. They get uprooted from their cultural milieu. Conversion to Christianity is invariably associated with separatism and terrorism as is evident in North-East Bharat. There are several areas in our country which have become hotbeds of christian missionary activity. The Dang district in Gujarat is one such area. The word Dang is a corruption of Dandakaranya, the legendary forest where Sri Rama and Lakshman spent some time while in exile. It is in this region that Shabari Mata, the immortal devotee of Sri Rama met her Lord and lovingly offered him sweet berries which she had tasted herself. The spot where this meeting took place is located on Chamak hill in this region. There is a temple of Shabari Mata at this site. The picturesque Pampa sarovar (lake) is located in this region. Situated on the border of Gujarat and Maharashtra, this district is predominantly inhabited by vanavasi Hindus. The district has 352 villages; the district headquarter is Ahwa. The town of Navapur in Maharashtra is close to the Dang district of Gujarat.
It is pertinent to note that the first church was established in Dang district in 1904. Since then, conversions to Christianity had been progressing at an alarming rate. In the period 1991-2001, the Christian population grew by a massive 400 per cent! The process of self-alienation and separatism which inevitably accompanies conversion had become visible in Dang. Makeshift, illegal churches had mushroomed in cowsheds and residential areas. These churches were unregistered and illegal. Such was the terrorism of Christian activists that it had become unsafe for Hindus to move out of their houses after dusk. It was in the midst of such hostile conditions that a Hindu swami descended upon Dang
Arrival of Swami Aseemananda
Swami Aseemananda, a Hindu sannyasi heads the shraddha vibhag of the Akhil Bharatiya Vanavasi Kalyan Ashram. For over 50 years, the Vanavasi Kalyan Ashram has been doing yeoman work in the vanavasi regions of Bharat. A Bengali by birth, Swamiji has spent several years in the Andaman and Nicobar islands. His innovative and bold methods in arousing the latent feeling of Hindutva amongst the vanavasis have made him a byword in the field of Hindu awakening. Little wonder then that Christian zealots have made many murderous attempts on his life. Deeply concerned by the Christianization of Dang, Swamiji resolved to stay in Dang and foil the designs of Christian missionaries. It was in August 1997 that this saffron-clad sannyasi set foot in Dang. All that he carried with him in this unfamiliar and hostile terrain were around 500 lockets of Hanuman and an unshakeable resolve! He would knock at the door of each house and would ask the inmates one question, “Are you Hindu or christian?” At the house of one such Hindu, Swamiji asked him, “May I spend the night in your house?” The Hindu gladly welcomed Swamiji. Swamiji kept his luggage, distributed the Hanuman lockets to the children and asked them to bring their Hindu friends in the evening for a Ram katha. That night, Dang witnessed the first ever Dharma sabha. Sensing danger, Christian missionaries asked Swamiji, “What brings you here?” The Swami posed them the same question. We have come here to serve the people replied the Christian missionaries. “I have come here to drive away those who have come here to serve” retorted the Swami. That was the beginning of the Hindu awakening in the Dangs.
Hindu awakening in the Dangs
In 1998, 25000 Christians embraced the religion of their forefathers in just two months. The submissive Hindu who had been hitherto terrorized by the Christian missionaries began to assert himself. “Hindu jaage, Christi bhaage” became a popular slogan of the vanavasis of Dang. From 1998-2004, a total of 55 Vishal Hindu Sammelans were organized. These were attended by a total of four lakh Hindus. As Hindus objected to conversion activities of Christian missionaries, clashes broke out.
The so-called mainstream media used this pretext to tarnish the Hindus. In December 2004, press reporters from 40 countries descended upon the Dangs and spread a misinformation campaign. As a result, the court restrained the Hindus from conducting any public ceremony around Christmas in future. Meanwhile, the tide of Hindu awakening only swelled. Today, Christian conversion activities have come to a halt not only in Dangs but also in the surrounding twelve districts.
In 2002, Hindu activists approached the famed Ramayana kathakar Sri Morari Bapu and told him, “You mesmerise thousands with Ram Katha. We request you to organize Ram Katha in Dang wher Sri Rama himself spent some time”. Sri Morari Bapu readily agreed. The tremendous response overwhelmed Sri Morari . In the course of his speech, he spontaneously expressed the desire that a formal kumbh be organized at the spot where Shabari Mata had met Sri Rama. Sri Morari Bapus desire was taken up as an order to be implemented. Thus was born the idea of Shabari kumbh.
Scale of the Shabari Kumbh
Organizing a kumbh in a remote, heavily forested area is a nightmare as far as logistics is concerned. It requires steely resolve, meticulous planning and precision to make the programme a grand success. The 352 villages in Dang district had no electricity, or roads; the town of Ahwa is a good 35 km from the proposed site of the kumbh There are no medical facilities or eateries in the vicinity. But the famed organizational might of the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh, Vanavasi Kalyan Ashram, Vishwa Hindu Parishad and other like-minded organizations is in full gear. Realizing the importance of such a venture to the state of Gujarat, the state government of Shri Narendra Modi has extended full co-operation. Planning started atleast one and a half years ago. A 250-200 hectare site has been chosen for the kumbh. The state government has undertaken construction of roads on a war footing. All the 352 villages of Dang have got electrification. A total of 22 check dams have been built on the river that feeds the Pampa sarovar where the holy bath will take place. A total of 20 lakh vanavasis reside in an area of 80 km around Dang. A survey of 5000 villages in Gujarat, Maharashtra, Madhya Pradesh was completed in the initial phase. Around 30-35 lakh vanavasis were contacted in this massive exercise. An estimated six lakh Hindus will attend the kumbh; of these, around two lakh are likely to stay for all three days. To arrange for their lodging, 40 townships each with a capacity of 5000 people will be erected. Each township will have 100 workers to look after various arrangements such as security, food, medical aid etc. Thus a total of 4000 workers will be required to look after the arrangements in the townships; an additional 2000 workers will be involved in other arrangemets.
About 388 vanavasi janajatis and 137 urban jatis which are currently facing missionary onslaught will be represented at the kumbh. Further, dharmacharyas from all over the country including 800 vanavasi sants will be attending the kumbh and taking part in the deliberations.
Each participant will be given a locket of his ishtadevata; Around 20 lakh lockets, 5 lakh Hanuman chalisa and 5 lakh bhagwa dhwaj will be distributed.
Programme
| 11 February 2006 | Sri Morari Bapu, Swami Satyamitanandji Giri(Haridwar) | Mahila sammelan to be attended by 70-80000 women, to be addressed by Sadhvi Shiva Saraswati |
| 12 February 2006 | Ma. Sri Sudarshanji, Swami Avdheshananda of Juna Akhada | Yuvak sammelan |
| 13 Februray 2006 | Sadhvi Ritambaraji, Shrimad Shankaracharya of Jyotishpeeth | water from sacred rivers all over Bharat will be poured in the Pampa sarovar |
There will be an exhibition of vanavasi freedom-fighters and heroes as also sixteen vanavasi dance performances, each of 1-2 hours duration on eight different platforms during the kumbh.
Budget
As expected, the budget of this kumbh will run into crores. Even at the rate of Rs. 6 per food plate, the cost of feeding the kumbh participants daily runs into lakhs.
What after the kumbh?
The kumbh will provide a boost to the Hindu movement in Gujarat, Maharashtra and Madhya Pradesh. In particular, the vanavasi Hindu will get tremendous confidence. The momentum generated by the kumbh is expected to trigger the reurn of thousands of Christian vanavasi converts back to the Hindu fold. A disinformation campaign has already been started by the so-called mainstream media. Allegations of damage to the environment are being made. These are totally baseless; fact is not a single tree has been cut. This fact has been written by the district magistrate himself in a letter to the Governor. In fact, the tourism in this area will receive a boost as the Gujarat government plans to make this into a full-fledged tourism spot. Infrastructure in this area has been completed thanks to the kumbh. Building of 22 check dams on the local river will ensure uninterrupted water flow all year
around A permanent hospital will come up near the site of the kumbh which will be devoted mainly to diseases of women.
What we can do?
Workers in their thousands are required in the arrangements of the kumbh. We can volunteer to spend 7 or 14 or 30 days in the run up to the kumbh Generous donations are required to meet the expenses of this massive event. The success of this event depends on the active co-operation of all Hindus All donation are exempt under section 80 G of Income Tax Act. Cheques may be drawn in the name of Shri Shabri
Kumbh Samaroh Aayojan Samiti. Donations may be sent to RSS Office.
Spread the word of the kumbh amongst friends and relatives.
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December 17th, 2005 at 4:45 am
Conversion in any form is the destruction of the CULTURE OF A COMMUNITY and a nation. Conversion of Hindus in India to Islam and Christianity is the cruel destruction of the culture of India.
Christianity and Islam are the two greatest religions of this world. Both of them came from Judaism. In a way, they are the “daughters of Judaism.” Both religions have mentioned the names of all Jewish prophets in their religious scriptures. There are mentions of the name of Jesus and Mother Mary in Holy Koran.
Jews do not resort to any forcible conversations. Christians and Moslems do. Both believe by converting others they get “brawny points” with God when they reach heaven.
It is true that every one should have the right to convince some one else about his beliefs and ideas. True that there is nothing wrong for a Moslem or a Christian to tell a poor Hindu all about his beliefs. Problems start when they manufacture history and facts and lie about other religions.
We need free flow of thoughts during this age of confusion and conflicts. Unluckily, missionaries inject lies about Hinduism when they preach about their religion. Missionaries falsify the facts and figures documented in the world history. They prey upon the “poor and sick” of India.
What a paradox!
One is not even allowed to carry a copy of the Holy Bible in Saudi Arabia;
One is not allowed to convert a Jew into any other religion is Israel;
One is not allowed to convert a Muslim to any other religion in Turkey;
One is not allowed to convert a Muslim to any other religion in Malaysia,;
One is not allowed to convert a Muslim to any other religion in Pakistan;
Read the full article http://www.sulekha.com/blogs/blogdisplay.aspx?contributor=Ed%20Viswanathan
December 17th, 2005 at 11:47 am
Ref. quote from the above comment:
{{ like all other religions and cultures in the world, Hinduism has the GOOD, the BAD and the UGLY aspects in it. Caste system is a disgrace and it is a curse on Hinduism. }}
Hinduism (that is sanatana dharma or varnasrama dharma) is given in gita which is the summary of the Vedas. There is nothing bad in it. Varnasram was malpracticed by the Hindus. So, all we need to do is practice dharma as it is in gita.
December 20th, 2005 at 12:51 pm
Unfortunately our own hindu society is not aware about the future implications of conversion. Our philosophy of ‘Ekam sat wipra bahudha wadanti’ not only tolerates but accepts all other religions as true.
Now time has come to respond in the language which is understood by these semetic religions.World peace is possible only through hindu philosophy. And the strength is required behind the philosophy. Strong and organised hindu samaj is the need of hour.
This bhagirath effort should be seen as dawn of hindu awakening and will definitely check future forceful conversions.
My sincere wishes to the organisers.
December 22nd, 2005 at 1:36 am
Conversion is a silent question for Hindu in all the world. But more important for to all hindus is understanding of world situation for hindu and take all hindu with one to one for Hindu religion. Muslim is a simbol of non-undertanding (Buddhi-Vihin) and Christains is a symbol of (Ku-Buddhi)…..
December 27th, 2005 at 4:41 am
It is heartening to know that rss/vhp r organising the holy kumbh in dangs.it is high time that v should create a strong bond with our vanvasi brothers & sisters & give them a feeling that they are one of the esential pillars of Hindu society,which were left in darkness of jun-gles & thus missionaries took an unparalled opportunity of converting them to christianity. several more kumbh shud b arrnged in other parts such as jhabua,bastar,orrisa & other regions & persuade our vanvasi brothers 2 join hindu fold whom v have lost to christianity.
December 28th, 2005 at 2:07 am
Namaskar.
Sangh is triving since 1925 to unite Hindu samaj. Now it is required more and more since our townfolks forgot their sanatana dharma in daily lives. Vanavasi brothers and sisters are getting right place in society again after 1000 years.
Har Har Mahadev!!
Anindya Chatterjee
December 28th, 2005 at 5:47 am
now it is the time to show tht they are not adivasi’s ,but vanavasi’s once again sangha is proving that working continously with patience has its own value,i hope it will become a platform for hindu sister & brothers to mingle with our own sisters & brothers who are living alone in the forest
December 30th, 2005 at 3:29 am
Namaskar
It is indeed a breaking news that shabari kumbh is taking place in the Dangs. Infact such activities should be held all over Bharat. We Hindus should not be submissive, if not offensive try to be atleast defensive. There is absolutely no harm in trying stop the conversion process. I had come across another such area where Conversion is taking place at a large scale by fooling the poor people. Its ‘Parbhani’ in Maharashtra where first generation Christin converts make a regular visit from Ooty, trying their best to hammer the Hindus into christianity. It is very sad that there are non-hindus in India because we did not resist such practice in the first place, secondly the converts probably realise that they have committed mistake & want to drag more people into it so that they feel secure. They start hating the hindus more than we hate them. Take for eg Pakistan, though India keeps forgiving them they still have the venom for us.
I would like to add one more thing, God will protect us only when we try protect ourselves.
My best wishes to the organisers.
Ajay Pai
January 3rd, 2006 at 12:54 am
Hello Guys,
I don’t see any purpose whatsoever behind organization of such things. I am a common man and I don’t think this has any significance to the life that I lead. Even though this happens (with implicit support of Gujarat govt.) or doesn’t happens, how does it matters and then why waste resources (infinite mandays)in this futile activity?). All of you people seem to have been taken over by a false fear of being taken over by Foreigners, Missionaries, et.al. The questions we face in our day to day life like roads, traffic, pollution, are far more important than what you guys are upto. Awake! guys awake and also act in the right direction……..
January 3rd, 2006 at 6:38 am
I am seeing that tremendous energy is used in holding this program. Why is this not being diverted in building permanent structures like schools, hospitals, colleges, university. These would go a long way in helping the tribals than so-called “Shabari Kumbha”.
There will be significance to all the religion and things for the tribals only when their basic humane necessities are first fulfilled.
January 4th, 2006 at 8:47 am
Some people have raised the issue that ShabariKumbh committee should be spending their energy in buildings schools etc. Those people have good intentions and they have valid points.
But it seems that they are just not aware of the schools actually constructed for Tribals by same people. The Ekal Vidyalaya movement (http://www.ekal.org) in India is currently running more than 15,000 schools in Tribal areas only! Yes, only in the remote tribal villages of India. They are educating 1/2 a million or 5 lakh student daily in fundamentals of education and health. Visit their website for more information.
Therefore, It is unjustified for people to accuse SK organizer in spending energy to bring together the Vanavasis spiritually.
January 4th, 2006 at 10:18 am
A great start to bring back our converted community to senses and back to roots.
All my best wishes,I plan and wow to use my original gujrati name from this Shabari mela.
January 6th, 2006 at 8:34 am
NAMASKAR
SOME SUDO SECULAR POLITATION HAVE RAISED ISSUE OF ENVIRONMENT PROTETCTION AND ALSO BLUF REGARDING THE CUTTING OF THE TREES BUT ON THE PERSONAL VISIT OF THE KUMBH STHAN AND SURROUNDING AREA THERE IS NO CUTTING OF THE TREES BUT FEELS THAT THEY ARE GROWING THE TREES AND ALSO LOCAL PEOPLE WILL GET BENIFIT OF THE RECENT MADE CHECK DAM FOR EVER AND IT WILL IMPROVE THE ENVINRONMENT IT IS DEFINATELY BUT THE SSP PEOPLE ARE TALKING LIKE GUJARATI PHRASE “DUKHE CHHE PET ANE KUTE CHHE MATHU” IT MEANS PAIN IN STOMUTCH AND THARSHIN HEAD.They can not see that the vanvasi merge with the main streem of the country. They want to see that the vanvasi is became alone and saparated from the main streem of the country so they can rule out on them as since 50 years of indipendance of the country.
Hope They get Sanskar from Shree Ram and Pujya Shabrimata and also come back to the “HOME”
Vandemataram by heart
January 8th, 2006 at 12:06 am
I do agree that any forced conversion is an attrocity done to a community.It applies to Muslims, christains,Hindus, Jews and all religion.
Adivasis have a different religion. They are not Hindus, they are not christains, they are not muslims. So trying to change the religion of Adivasis is a big crime. Trying to force them or lure them or bluff them into Hinduism is as much a crime as using unfair means to convert hem to any other rreligion.
In the same way when any one tries to change ADIVASI into VANVASI, that too is a violence and treading on the freedom of a community.
Brhmins won’t like any other group to give them another name or change their name, Christians would not like…..and no one will like some one else to change his/her name. Then why is that the VHP =RSS so eager to change the name of Adivasis? Is there something more than just changing the name? is it a desperate attempt to prove that non-adivasis are not outsiders and adivasis are not the legitmagte original inhabitants of the country?
I see RSSpVHP doing the same wrong they accuse the Christains and the Muslims of………
January 8th, 2006 at 11:29 pm
Good job folks. It is high time we bring our vanvasi brothers and sisters back. And, not only Vanvasis but the whole of India needs to be awakened to India’s Bhartiya cultural roots.
The danger of Christian conversion is very real. The Christian missionaries are disrespectful of Hinduism and Tribal religions, and their goal is to convert India into Christianity, as can be seen on numerous websites proclaiming as such. However, these missionaries should realise that the Hindu will not be asleep forever and when he wakes up, watch out !!!!!!!
January 9th, 2006 at 12:05 pm
Forced conversions, either by lure of money or threat of violence, are abominable.
Sri AdiSankaracharya should come back to reawaken the choked spirit of Hinduism.
On the related topic, see the attached article
http://ia.rediff.com/news/2006/jan/09franc.htm?q=tp&file=.htm
Kudos to the organizers of Shabarikumbh!
January 9th, 2006 at 3:37 pm
Hi,
Everyone is going in the wrong direction. Missionaries leave their country, their families and their relatives and come over to a new place to make you aware of the only Lord God Almighty. They are leaving their comfort life and strugling in the new place just to spread word of the only God and you can be saved. Why don’t you people understand this, If you get converted they are not going gain single paise. You should be grateful to them for giving you a true life. RSS and VHP are none other than to create confusion among your community. Go ahead and see how the RSS & VHP people enjoy their own lives they do this kind of acts for thier benefit. Go to a lonely place meditate in your heart on these aspects, you will realize which is better. After all conversion is individual’s decision and no one can force them to do. Did you hear any violence act done by any missionaries till this day. Can you count how many violence acts RSS and VHP has done till this day in the name of Hindus, they have murdered so many Missionaries, do they have the authority on others life. How many people are greived with their act. Someone said in the above comments that Hinduism also preaches the same good and bad in gita and has to follow dharma. Just ask these questions to yourself is RSS and VHP following this? You have to decide your life , its not RSS and VHP. Missionaries are only spreading the word of the only GOD, you get an opputinity to know about HIM.
God has given each individual Brain to think and heart to realize and repent. I would say once agin, you take your decision think on what they are preaching and meditate and decide your life. The decision you make will give you the appropriate fruit.
In Love
January 10th, 2006 at 1:56 am
The great challenge to Hinduism is from Marxists of India. Marxists know that it is Hinduism which is bounding this country together and it is Hinduism is the only barrier between control over our country and Marxism. Christianity could not stop Great wars among European countries and Islam could not stop classic wars between Iran, Kuwait and Iraq. We can’t even imagine such wars between UP or MP or Maharashtra or Gujarat. As long as Hinduism is alive in the country and this country is blessed by Lord Krishna Marxists have not change of fulfilling their nefarious objectives.
I want to remind the people of India that there is a coquette who was dancing at Godhra
Said Chattisinghpura was a law and order problem.
January 10th, 2006 at 11:57 pm
Vanavasi Kalayn Ashram is doing a valuable service to Hindu society and I wish more and more Hindu joins this movement.
Best wishes for Kumbh mela.
January 12th, 2006 at 10:43 pm
Pranam,
Jay swaminarayan,
This kumbh is much more better than the maha kumbh and this work is the most necessary work for the save our country India from araising current problem of terrorism and nexalisum.The conversion of Vanvasi Bandhu resulting anti National activities. and it should be reverse. This is the only Way to save the country, Religion, and Hindu Culture.
I am with Kumbh with my thausands of friends and relative.And I hope that all real Indian should with The Shabari Kumbh.
January 14th, 2006 at 12:28 am
adivasi means sub-human. vanvasi means forest dweller. there is no attempt and ill intention in terming adivasis as vanvasis. in fact, it gives them the legitimacy to knowledge which people like u claim to have sole propreity on by insisting to term them as adivasis. vanvasis actually gives them the respect that they deserve, the only difference between us and them being that we live in the cities, towns, villages whereas they live in the remote areas/forests.
January 18th, 2006 at 12:03 am
Its all true that this is “Hindu Awakening..”…does that mean “Hindu” is sleeping so far…..?
No..i think…there is another aspect to this as far as my thinking goes..as follows..
Can we not organize or request people to gather other than the very place of shabari kumbha..? for simple reason of protecting the forest which is virgin and rare too….i dont mean that the gathering is of no use , definately it is necessary..only thing is that we are going to destroy the peace of the forest…which is ireversible damage to the nature…
Please think on this…!
January 18th, 2006 at 11:55 am
ITS REALLY A GOOD JOB DONE BY THE RSS/VHP.
ITS HIGH TIME WE BROUGTH BACK OUR VANAVASI BRETHREN BACK TO OUR HINDU FOLD & GIVE THEM DIGNITY , THEY HAVE LONG BEEN TARGET OF MISSIONARIES HENCE SUCH MELAS SHUD BE CONDUCTED ALL OVER BHARAT SO THAT ALL THE CONVERTED
PEOPLE WILL RETURN TO HINDUISM, MY GRANDFATHER WAS A
RSS VOLUNTEER HE ALSO WORKED FOR THE VANAVASIS AT THE
VANAVASI KALYAN KENDRAS , IN MAHARASHTRA & I KNOW WHAT A GOOD JOB RSS IS DOING FOR TRIBALS , NOT BY JUST ARRANGING MELAS BUT IT ALSO PROVIDES HEALTH CARE,EDUCATION TO THEM & ALL OTHER FACILITIES TO THESE
VANAVASIS ALL OVER INDIA.
SO WHEN RSS ARRANGES SUCH MELAS THE SUDO SECULAR CONGRESS AND THE CPM ETC BANGS THEIR HEAD BUT WHEN THE MISSIONARIES ARE CONVERTING LAKHS OF PEOPLE BY FRAUD
NO BODY OPENS THEIR MOUTH WHY?
LET ME REPLY TO “Xanju Mitra” WHO SAID THE ADIVASIS HAVE NO RELIGION , THIS IS A TYPICAL STATEMENT USED BY THE MISSIONARIES AND THE SECULARISTS IN INDIA , THE ADIVASIS HAVE BEEN LONG RELATED TO THE HINDU CULTURE.
IT WERE THE BRITISH WHO ISOLATED THEM FROM THE MAIN STREAM & EVENTUALLY STARTED CONVERTING THEM.
WHATS WRONG IN CALLING THE ADIVASIS AS VANAVASIS???
THE ADIVASI NAME WAS GIVEN TO THEM BY THE SUDO-SECULARIST PEOPLE IN BHARAT, IN FACT WHO LIVE IN FOREST
SHUD BE LOGICALLY KNOWN AS VANA-VASIS(VANA=FOREST)
HAS ANYBODY CHALLENGED WHO SHUD BE CALLED BOHRI,SHIA OR SUNNI TO A MUSLIM, HAS ANYBODY CHALLENGED WHO IS PROTESTANT & WHO OR WHY HE IS A CATHOLIC TO A CHRISTIAN???
THEN WHY IT ASKED ONLY WHEN IT COMES TO HINDUS, WHO ARE THE CHRISTIANS OR THE SECULAR BRIGADES TO ASK HINDUS WHY THEY CALL TRIBALS AS VANAVASIS?
THIS NOTHING BUT A TRICK TO DEFAME US HINDUS.
THE MISSIONARIES MUST BE BANNED OTHER WISE THEY WILL DIVIDE ENTIRE INDIA & CARVE A SEPERATE CHRISTIAN NATION.
JAI HIND!!JAI BHARAT!! JAI SHRI RAM!! JAI SHABRI MATA!!
January 20th, 2006 at 2:41 am
I fail to reason as to why there is a hue and cry over a tribals converting into christianity in the Dangs. The threat of a second crusade, so to say . i just scanned through the latest 2001 census report of the Indian government, there are just 8,000 tribals in Dangs and christians in Gujarat constitute just 0.2 per cent. In the country they constitute just 2.31 per cent. And if iam not mistaken there are officials records to show that Christians are decreasing in number in Gujarat (this imformation can be found on the GUjarat census website)
Besides i heard that more than 38,000 tribals in dangs would be reconverted as Hindus. When there are just 8,000 Christians in Dangs where would the Sangh get the rest 30,000 tribals from.
In this entire scheme of things we are ignoring the basic rights that the tribals have been demanding for years, their forests. I am not a ‘tribal acrtivist’, but a lay man who thinks that in a day i must have some of my basic necessities fulfilled–food, a house and some money. Tribals too are basic people who want these basic necessities unlike the mnainstraem middle class who wants a car , an apartment. People who are able to fulfil these basic trequirements become their source of livelihood.
January 22nd, 2006 at 8:19 pm
Namashkar,
Sangh parivaar is doing a great job. We need to create awareness about this kumbh ayojan to people by circulating mails and informing people. Hindus living in big cities are very ignorant and misinformed by the so called “secular” media.
Great job by sangh.
Jai Hind,
Jai Shri Ram.
January 23rd, 2006 at 11:02 pm
It is very requir procedure for Hindu population.In india other religions are spred its Dharm.
January 23rd, 2006 at 11:09 pm
Dang me Christyan misionary ke sath jo bhi activities ho rahi hai esaka javab dene ke liya sangh parivar Shabrikumbh ka ayogan kiya hai
BHARAT MATA KI JAY
JAY HIND
January 24th, 2006 at 12:42 am
Please accept my heartfelt tributes for the wonderful work that Vanvasi Kalyan Parishad is doing in tribal areas in India. Your tireless efforts and your success is causing heartburn among the Church and their propagandists like Shabnam Hashmi.
January 25th, 2006 at 10:28 pm
Sixty year after indipendence Dang is still undeveloped.Thousands are still below poverty line.Thou rain is more than 100 inches there is a bitter scarcity from mid winter to next rain.Many children and even womens are more than haif nakade.Many of tham are having just a meal with in a day.Death by snack biting and delivery is common due to absence of roads and health infrastructure.Church and Christian NGO’s are working in Dang since last 110 years than why this is the Situation of Dang? SHABARIMATA SEVA SAMITI,VANAVASI KALYAN ASHRAM AND associate Organisation are working for last two decades.They are working for development in fact.Inspiered by water conservation effort done in SAURASHTRA region of Gujarat,In dang also about 300 Checkdam have come up with public participation.which is the result of our work.It will result in socio-economy improvemnt.Let us eplore tourisam and one grand activity is Shabarikumbh. Missionerie and intrested NGO’s have failed to achieve any development in the area why they are against the aspicious venue of SHABARIKUMBH.Are not they pseudo developers.Pariots…Please…Know Thee enemies. Gopalbhai Patel surat
January 26th, 2006 at 6:07 pm
Do what ever it takes to promote Sanatan Dharma! Its amazing that the Christians and Muslims have always had a plan for us and always will, but we don’t have a plan for them …….Wake up Hindu Brothers and Sisters. For too long we have been known to be their SITTING DUCKS, its time we rise and take our respective place in this world, and it is up to us to carve it out or else no one will.
January 27th, 2006 at 2:33 am
Vanavasi Kalyan Ashram doing very nice job for tribals and for Bharat.
Keep it up. All forign funded so-called NGO should learn lesson from selfless efforts of Vanavasi Kalyan Ashram/Parishad. There is very worthful work of water harvesting is done in MP’s tribal domonated area. A remarkable educational work is done in the Dungarpur -Banswara districts of south Rajasthan. May our so-called mainstream media bother to highlight these works?
January 28th, 2006 at 9:08 am
Jay Siya Ram
i would like commend and congraulate all for this wonderfull event
may events like this bring our younger genaration together to sustain our culture.
jay siya ram
January 31st, 2006 at 1:47 am
Jay Shree Ram
i would like commend and congraulate all for this wonderfull event
may events like this bring our younger genaration together to sustain our culture.
jay shree ram
January 31st, 2006 at 2:08 am
Namaste,
All the cry of RSS or VHP trying to convert Vanvasis (meaning those who reside in the ‘vanas’ i.e. forests)to Hindutva is baseless. RSS or VHP has never done ever any such thing. It is Christianity that has a long history of conversion, right from its inception. Crusades are related to Christianity, not to Hindutva. Hindutva, for that matter, is not a religion. Let it be remembered that the Pope had come to Bharat some years back and spoken of converting the whole of Asia to Christianity in the thitd milleneum. He had spoken about “reaping the harvest of faith”. What does this mean?
Those who really feel worried about tribal religion being wiped out should ask the church to stop conversion activities. They not only convert people but also destroy their culture. The North-East is a glaring example.
Programmes like the SHABARIKUMBH will go a long way in protecting the indegenous faith and culture of the vanvasis.
January 31st, 2006 at 4:11 am
jai shri ram
i would like congraulate all for this wonderfull event.
My best wishes to the all my hindu brothers & sisters &
all our VHP & Bajrangdal karyakarta.
jai shri ram
amit trimbakkar
mumbai
February 1st, 2006 at 9:02 pm
Congratulations to all who are associated to organize this grand event.
I was in the Dang during November 2005. It’s a wonderful place. Unfortunetly some are spreading worng impresstion about this event.
Wihsing you all for best of time at ShabriKumbh Mela.
Jai Shree Ram.
February 2nd, 2006 at 8:32 am
HINDUISM HAS NEVER TAUGHT INTOLERENCE FOR OTHERS AND HAS NEVER ENCOURAGED CONVERSIONS ON THE BASIS OF INCENTIVES. I AM SURE, THIS EVENT WOULD ENLIGHTEN THE WORLD WITH THE BEST PRACTICES OF THE RELIGION. I WISH SUCH EVENTS WOULD BECOME AN ANNUAL PHENOMEANA.
MA BHARTI AAP KA MARG PRASHASHTHA KARE.
February 3rd, 2006 at 6:48 am
Namaskaram,
Keep it up and Awaken all Hindus and fight to Christenty in India.Shabari Kumbh will be Obstacle to conversions in India.
February 4th, 2006 at 11:20 am
Vanvasi or Adivasi???
Who are these people? Question to all readers and who have posted your sensitive comments.
It makes lot of different sense by calling them ADIVASi then Vanvasi. Over the years Adivasi have been pushed back by the higher caste from the mainstream of teh country’s growth and progress. It’s the Christian institutions who have taken the initiative to reach out to the marginalized Adivasis (not vanvasi). Over the years of the hard work of selfless work of the Missionaries have yield the fruits. Today, Advivasis have made tremendous progress in lot of field. Now the higher caste have to compete with our neglected brothers and sisters in all field. where were RSS, VHP, BD and the other socalled Passionists of Hindusim when Adivasis needed our help???
February 5th, 2006 at 10:36 am
I AM VERY HAPPY TO HEAR THAT A RENAISSAINCE IN HINDU SOCIETY IS NOW SET TO START. THE INNOSCENT TRIBALS OF OUR HOLY COUNTRY ARE THE SOFT TARGETS OF THESE PATHETIC MISSIONARIES. I HEARTLY THANK SANGH TO INITIATE THIS WORK.
I HAVE A SUGGESTION THESE CHRISTIAN MISSIONARIES HAVE VERY HIGH CLASS COMMUNICATION CHANNELS LIKE TV SHOWS, RADIOS TO MISLEAD PEOPLE.
SO A RADIO CHANNEL SHOULD BE STARTED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE TO HELP THE TRIBAL AND RURAL PEOPLE IN THE MAINSTREAM.
THANK YOU AND MY BEST WISHES TO EACH HINDU NATIONALIST
February 5th, 2006 at 2:17 pm
The Christians, Muslims and the others (non-Hinuds) are considered by Hindus, non-Indians. Who are the real sons and daughters of this soil??? None other than Adivasis, who inhabitated this land and lived peacefully. We, the Arians (Barberian) invaded their beautiful soil and pushed them to the dense forest. Over the years, India has always welcomed all the religions and lived harmoniously. Recently, some fanatic frictions of the soil, disrupting the peace and harmony in the country. I hope and pray, some sense will prevail in the minds of all the Indians to know who are responsible to create mess in the country in the name of the religion. Jai India.
February 7th, 2006 at 8:04 pm
How far is it from pune and how to reach there.
Please guide me.
February 9th, 2006 at 1:40 am
Excellent website and great to see Hindus united in commemorating such a great bhaktini as Shabri-mata.
February 9th, 2006 at 2:37 am
Excellent work VHP/ RSS. May you have many many such programs every where in BHARAT.
Jai Sri Ram
February 9th, 2006 at 4:33 am
A reader has commented on the low percentage of Christians in Bharat. In fact as per the census figures, the percentage of Christians in Bharat has remained static from 1991 to 2001 at 2.31 %. Perhaps Hindus are not aware of the huge number of crypto-Christians who do not register themselves as Christians in the census for fear of losing facilities such as reservations. Please look up the World Christian Encyclopedia figures for huge numbers of crypto-Christians in Bharat. It is also part of the Church’s plan not to excite passions amongst Hindus and go on converting Hindus on the sly
February 9th, 2006 at 6:10 am
kudos to swami asheemanandaji for his brave work and to sri Morariji bapu for
coming out with such an excellent idea.The days, when the saffron flag will be
visible in every corner of Hindustan, are not far away.
February 9th, 2006 at 8:19 am
If you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without blood shed, if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odd against you and only a small chance of survival. There may even be a worse case,…..you may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.
Quote Sir Winston Churchill
Deja Vous…brothers and sisters does this sounds familiar is it about to happen again. The bells are ringing once again read your history, know your history,because those don’t study their history are condemned to repeat it.Quote Rev Jim Jones before killing himself after the Jonestown Massacre in Guyana
To learn more about your Hindu Dharma see http://www.vivekanandagospel.org/AwakeArise.pdf
February 9th, 2006 at 8:30 am
I hope this muster’s up some courage and intrigues some of us to pursue our cause for Hinduism:http://hinduholocaust.blogspot.com
February 9th, 2006 at 8:35 am
A report by a Delhi-based voluntary organisation has accused the Gujarat government of collaborating with Sangh organisations in forcibly converting tribals to Hinduism in the Dang district of Gujarat.
The Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh and its affiliated organisations like the Vanvasi Kalyan Parishad and the Hindu Jagran Manch have organised a Shabri Kumbh on February 11-13 in Dang district, which is one of the smallest and poorest districts in Gujarat with a population of 1,86,000.
The massive mobilisation of the tribal community in the district by an RSS-affiliated organisation has become controversial in view of the allegations regarding ‘Hindukaran’ (proselytisation) of the tribals.
In Dang, tribals comprise 92 per cent of the population while Christians are less than 5 per cent.
The Shabri Kumbh has become a sensitive issue because more than 5 lakh tribals are expected to participate in the festival.
A Delhi-based voluntary organisation had formed a citizen’s inquiry committee comprising Digant Oza, social activist, Shabnam Hashmi of Act Now for Harmony and Democracy, Rohit Prajapati, human rights activist, Ram Puniyani, secretary of the All India Secular Forum, and others to inquire into the mass mobilisation of tribals and the intentions of its motivators.
According to their report, the Gujarat government is openly collaborating with Sangh organisations in ‘forcible conversion’ called ghar vapsi (return home). Under this, tribals are taken back into Hindu society.
According the report, the Gujarat government and Sangh activists are engaged in a systematic campaign to divide the Dang adivasis on religious lines. Sangh activists are doing this ostensibly to ‘counter the proselytisation activities of the Christian missionaries’ and saving the ‘Hindu adivasis’.
“The Sangh Parivar is actively involved in the conversion of tribals to Hinduism. The systematic hate campaign against Christians has created fear. Christians are threatened and some of them have taken out their cross,” Hashmi said.
According to the committee, the RSS is targeting not only tribals of Dang, but they are also spreading out to the forests of Madhya Pradesh, Chhattisgarh, Bihar, Jharkhand, Rajasthan and Orissa.
“It’s time to have a social audit of their activities,” said Oza.
Instead of building roads and bridges, providing them drinking water, health and education, Sangh organisations are dividing tribals on religious lines, the report claims.
“We are different people. We celebrate a Dussera type of festival by killing goats and chicken. We pay homage to our dead people differently. We worship stones and our goddess is Mother Nature. We worship the sun and moon. We believe in Waghdeo (tiger god) and Nagdeo (snake god). Sangh activists are cheating our people,” Bharat Pawar, a tribal from Dang and leader of the Dang Majdoor Union told mediapersons in New Delhi.
He said Sangh activists told tribals when Lord Ram and Sita were passing through this area, they ate food served by Shabri, who belonged to the Bhil community. ‘Shabri is your ancestor,’ claimed Sangh activists.
“They have installed a statue of Shabri whose skin is as white as Americans’! They are doing everything to trap us,” Pawar said.
The Shabri temple is erected at the exact place where Lord Ram is said to have met Shabri and eaten wild berries. Dang is a part of the Dandkarayan area described in the Ramayana.
‘Our resolve is to free the world from the ideologies of conversions and jihad,’ reads a slogan outside the Shabri temple. “Tribals are not Hindus. Tribals are tribals,” said Pawar emphatically.
Ram Madhav, spokesman of the RSS, had a different opinion. “Tribals are Hindus. Just because one or two persons say something different, the truth won’t change,” he told rediff.com.
“There is no question of their conversion to Hinduism. Tribals follow a particular mode of worship, which is integral to the Hindu way of life,” Madhav said.
Rather, Madhav thinks the opposition to Shabri Kumbh is an attempt to break the unity of Hindus in India. He said there are large numbers of non-tribal Hindus who worship snakes, the sea, trees and nature.
Prajapati, who has studied the issue, said, “The district collector of Dang has given the tribals compact discs of Shabri Kumbh, which also carries the message of hatred against Christians.”
Hashmi alleged that under the guise of Shabri Kumbh, the RSS is targeting Christians. ‘Dang will show the way to the tribal belts of India,’ local RSS leaders told the fact-finding team.
The report claimed that people are not given money or better infrastructure, but are intimidated at a social level.
“As the Ayodhya movement was targeted at Muslims, the Shabri Kumbh is targeting Christians. It is another Ayodhya in the making where the target is Christians. It is a slow process,” Hashmi said.
Hashmi said Christians have been living and serving in the forests of Dang since the last 50 years, but since the last 10 years, they are being persecuted. As a result of an RSS-sponsored campaign, he said, “Christians live in fear and under pressure.”
According to Punyani, by popularising the Shabri myth, the RSS is spreading its vision of Hindu society, where like Shabri, tribals of India will be asked to serve the upper castes.
The report alleged that the RSS is playing a political game and misleading tribals.
“In this, the Gujarat government supports the RSS. The line between the RSS and the Gujarat government has vanished,” added Puniyani.
According to the report, more than 700 trees have been cut to organise the Shabri Kumbh and many Christian landholdings have been grabbed.
While dismissing such allegations, Madhav said, “Critics of the Shabri Kumbh are paid agents of Christian missionaries. There is no coercion and no conversion. The tribals are voluntarily participating.”
Dang’s local political leader and legislator Madhubhai belongs to the Congress. He has written to the central government about the ‘conversion issue’ in Dang, but he himself is not opposing the kumbh.
Hashmi said, “There is a lack of political will” even on the part of the Congress.
February 9th, 2006 at 8:39 am
Respected Swamiji and Shri Jayantibhai,
Pranam …
I wish I could be there. I am missing most memorable company of Shri Kantibhai and Shri Jayantibhai and also our regular visit to Shabaridham. I have already missed a golden opportunity to work as a Volunteer in Shabari Kumbh 2006. But that’s how it goes. You never know, where you will be today or tomorrow. I still remember those days when I used to sit with Jayantibhai, sometimes beyond midnight to discuss on plans for ShabariKumbh and also the printing of brochures. I am now miles away from all that, but, my best wishes for grand success of ShabariKumbh 2006 can fly from miles in a second.
Looking to the interest taken by Sangh Parivaar (as was in the case of Ram Katha by Pujya Moraribapu), I am (infact, everyone is) very much sure of its grand success. And, this will be a good answer to those who are always eager to bring controversy to this holy occassion.
Missing you all, my pranam to all…
Yours…
Pragnesh Gajjar
Leicester, UK.
February 9th, 2006 at 12:27 pm
i am proud of rss and vhp for organising this event and they should do more programmes like this kumbh mela and bring our brothers back to hindu fold and the next great country wide event should be of cleaning ganga.
hare krishna
February 9th, 2006 at 2:50 pm
Shri Makarand Mule (the author of one of the articles on this website), writes, “Otherwise, the coming generation may be Hindu by birth, but the daily behavior, Sanskaars will be Christian.”
This is exactly what has happened to the millions of the Hindus from India who have emigrated from India to the West, especially to the United States, the United Kingdom, Canada and Australia. They have also become citizens of those countries after giving up Indian citizenship and renouncing “Bharat Mata”. The RSS (including Sevikas)/VHP/Sangh Parivar leaders regularly make trips to those countries which have a majority population that is not Hindu and where beef is eaten to raise money and funds. These emigrants from India, according to the logic of one article on this website, are also guilty of splitting up families by emigrating from Bharat Mata and abandoning everything they know to settle down in a foreign land.
There are millions of Hindus who also go to work in the Middle East. They then send money home for their families. I hope the Sangh Parivar provides employment and guidance to all these Hindus so they can live in Bharat not abandon their mother(land).
I hope the Sangh Parivar ensures that all these people also come back to Bharat to attend the Shabarikumbh and not leave the country after this very auspicious and important event, but settle down in the Dangs to work for the Adivasis.
February 10th, 2006 at 4:21 am
Bravo! RSS, VHP , BD and Guj Gov.
I have personally seen how christian agents for conversions are trying to lure our poor hindu brothers and sisters.
We should have such more Kumbhs IN Orissa Tribal area also.
Jai Hind
February 10th, 2006 at 9:56 am
Namaskar,
RSS and related organisations are doing a great job to mobilize these tribals for betterment of their life.Hinduism needs to be incoporated into every walk of life of Indians as without it our lives are deteriorating by becoming material driven(western influence).Its a great tragedy that if in India somebody like RSS is there to do a good job there are our own people to drag them down.Finally every “Bhartiya” has to rise and i think we are on the that way.I wish similar function is organized in northeast(gem)of India ,a place severely tormented by foreign powers.Northeast tribals brother and sisters needs us.
Thanku.
February 10th, 2006 at 7:04 pm
All the organisers and karyakartas must be congratulated for this commendable effort. The website also is extremely impressive. Let’s hope the real awakening will happen some time.
Wish you all the best.
February 11th, 2006 at 2:24 am
Hare Krishna! Hari Bol! Jai Ram Ji Ki! Jai Shabari Maiya! Jai Bharat Ma!
Finally we as Hindus/followers of sanatan dharma showing the solidarity. hard and persistant work of Sangh, sants and sanatan gurus is bearing the fruit. Hinduism is going through Renaissance and Shabari Kumbh Mela is one such manifestation of growing awareness among the Hindus all over the world, particular in Bharat Varsh.
even here in US, people are getting more aware about Hinduism and Hindu causes, but there’s still miles to go. to secure Hinduism in its Homeland Bharat is a pious duty of every single Sanatani. we must educate the coming generation in more organised way, and its about the time, we should reach out to non-hindus, and proselytise. we must stand up to the defamation and misinformation about hinduism in other countries. rest of the world follows what happens in US, so we must make american hindus aware of contemporary problems, their past roots, and future implications.
i am willing to do my bit, and by the causeless mercy of Krishna, i wish to make a difference,and see a resurgent vibrant healthy wise strong indefetigable Bharat and Sanatan Dharma.
we must come up with the parallel media in India, to counter the effects of ‘pseudo secular’ press( TOI,indian express,Hindu et al).
we should beat these marxists propogandists in their own game, by taking over the Indian media, including printing press, magazines, tv news channels, and of course lots of nationalistic radio stations. free speech of india should not be misused by these secularists.
another thing we desperately need is chain of primary and schools all around india in every city and town to counter the missionary propoganda through their st xaviers and st josephs. we need world class institutes of primary and secondary level, so that our kids wont go to these christian convent schools.
Jai Hind!
Jai Hind!
February 11th, 2006 at 10:28 am
Gujarat govt. is doing great job under the leadership of shri narendrabhai modi.
its great to know that reconversion is carried by vhp,& Bajarang DAL.
I know how hindus are suffering in islamic @ cristian ruled state.
carry on with your good work to VHP,Bajarang Dal.
all the best.
February 11th, 2006 at 12:44 pm
THIS IS A REPLY TO A ANTI- HINDU WHO HAS BEEN GIVING FALSE REPORTS BASED ON SOME BIASED THOUGHT OF NARROW MINDED PEOPLES LIKE SHABNAM HASMI AND DIGAMBAR OZA.
MR VALENTINO REBELLO IF YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE ABOUT RSS/VHP
PLEASE DO NOT COMMENT ON IT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS A TYPICAL BLUFF THAT RSS HAS DONE NOTHING TO THE VANAVASIS AND OUR BACKWARD BROTHERS
DO YOU KNOW THAT SAMAJIK SAMARASTA MANCH THAT WAS ESTABLISHED MANY YEARS AGO BY THE GREAT DATTOPANT THENGDI OF RSS , STRIVES IN THE FIELD TO ACHIEVE SOCIAL EQUALITY AND BROTHERHOOD AMONG HINDUS, THE RSS HAS TREMENDOUS JOB FOR SERVICE OF THE TRIBALS.
WHAT IS WRONG WITH CONVERTING THOSE WHO HAVE LEFT THEIR RELIGION DUE TO BAD CONDITIONS SUCH AS POVERTY OR INEQUALITY?? IF THE HINDU SOCIETY IS READY TO ACCEPT THEM IN THEIR FOLD WITH DUE RESPECTS THEN WHY PEOPLE LIKE “YOU” GET PAIN YOUR STOMACH? BCOZ THEY ARE LEAVING CHRISTIANITY AND ACCEPTING THEIR RELIGION ONCE AGAIN??
WHY DONT PEOPLE LIKE YOU MR “REBELLO” SPEAK A WORD WHEN THE MISSIONARIES CONVERT OUR POOR BROTHERS BY FRAUD?
WHY DONT YOU SPEAK WHEN THEY HURT SENTIMENTS OF HINDUS BY CARRYING THEIR MISSIONARY ACTIVITEIS ILLEGALLY?
WHY DONT YOU SPEAK WHEN THEY RAPE THE POOR & BACKWARD WOMEN TAKING THE ADVANTAGE OF THEIR POSITIONS?
RECENTLY IN 2002 A CHRISTIAN PRIEST FROM USA WAS SENT BACK BY THE KERALA GOVT ( WHERE SO CALLED SECULARS ARE IN POWER) FOR ILLEGALY USING HIS TOURIST VISA FOR CARRYING OUT MISSIONARY ACTIVITIES.
IS THIS THE MORALITY OF THE CHRISTIANS WHICH THEY OFTEN TALK ABOUT WHENEVER THEY ARE ATTACKED,
I ACCEPT THAT SOME PEOPLE OF HINDUISM HAVE NOT TREATED THE DOWNTRODDEN BROTHERS IN A BAD MANNER BUT THAT DOESNOT MEAN THAT ALL ARE LIKE THAT.
MANY PEOPLE FROM SO CALLED HIGHER CASTES HAD BECOME SOCIAL REFORMERS WHO FOUGHT FOR THESE PEOPLES AND THEIR DIGNITY FOR EG;
SAVARKAR, RAJA RAM MOHAN ROY, JUSTICE RANADE, MAHARASHI KARVE, MAHATAMA GANDHI, SANT TUKARAM, TO NAME A FEW.
SWAMI VIVEKANANDA ALSO DIRECTED HINDUS TO WORK FOR DALITS , BACKWARDS , AND THROUGH HIS ENTIRE LIFE HE PREACHED EQUALITY AMONG NOT JUST HINNDUS BUT ALL RELIGIONS.
I ASK U MR VALENTINO REBELLO THAT DOES ISLAM OR CHRISTIANITY PREACH EQULAITY OF ALL RELIGIONS?
………… NO THEY HAVE ALWAYS STATED THAT THEIR RELIGION IS THE ONLY ONE WHICH IS SUPREME, WHEREAS HINDUISM HAS ALWAYS SAID THAT “TRUTH IS ONE BUT MANY PEOPLE DESCRIBE IT IN MANY WAYS”
I MAY ASK YOU 1 QUESTION , THAT IF THE CHRISTIANS REALLY WANT TO WORK FOR THE POOR AND TRIBALS THEN WHY CANT IT WORK FOR THEM WITHOUT CONVERING THEM ?? IS THIS YOUR “SELFLESS SERVICE TO HUMANITY”
SO MR VALENTINO BEFORE POINTING OUT AT RSS/VHP WHICH HAS WORKED SELFLESSLY FOR HINDUS AND NOT CONVERTED ANY ONNE FROM ANY OTHER RELIGION UNLIKE THE FANATIC MISSIONARIES LOOK AT WHAT THE
February 12th, 2006 at 4:29 am
Namaskar,
Sincere wishes to the Swamijis,karyaKartas and the government of Gujarat in organizing the kumbh to free the vanavasis from the ugly hands of christian missioneries. The christinan missioneries in the name of service are conveting the vanavasis to christanity and making them distance to their original culture. It is the duty of every indian to preverse our culture. I wish to organize these type of kumbh melas in every state of india.
JaiHind
February 12th, 2006 at 7:42 am
All media and newspapers,particulary english print media, are against for holding Shabri Kumbh and they started canvassing by way of taking interview of dang habitants,who were forecasting apprehension of attack by aggressive hindu activists,like RSS and VHP.
Even day before starting of Kumbh on 10/02/2006, interview of christian women was telecast wherein she was telling that “outisde may spoil the atmosphere. But facts remains this:
a] so called print media is affraiding of gathering of such Hindu congregation, specifically at vanvasi area.
b] if Hindus are going in direction of unity, its very negative for such media or so called human activists, to work in their ill motive
c] if such great mass of tribal unites it may adversely affact, planned conversion programme of such NGO/Missionaries.
d] if this Kumbh Mela is getting success, the image of Gujarat, which such human right activitis have propounded in the country and world, will be changed and this makes much difficult path for abusing gujarat and its progress.
But nothing is going to happen, and Kumbh will be a great success.Because at heart the motive of Kumbh is clear and positive.
February 12th, 2006 at 7:44 am
I have alrady put my comments
February 12th, 2006 at 9:17 am
Mahatman,
As a patriotic Indian, I am very much interested in the programmes arranged by ‘Shabarikumbh’. Wish all success to the programme and pray to the almighty to bless the organisers to conduct the mela in an effective manner.
The main point which we have to think about is the so called secular print/visual medias. All are against any ‘hindu’ movement. They are iether avoiding such neweses or projecting the negative points of such programmes. Now I feel that it is high time to think about a National visual media with teleacst in all state languages, exclusively for the teleast of national movement neweses and visuals. There is no other option. Every body wants the block votes of so called minorities and we the hindus are at present no other way but to unite and start our on meida.
I request all hindu organisations to think about seriously about the above point and strat something immediately. As a lay-man, I am ready to sacrifice to any extent to this national cause.
With pranams
Rajeev. (My mob-9447475891)
February 12th, 2006 at 10:22 am
this is a great event. atlast hindu society is waking up and getting united. the shabhari kumbh should just be a beginning for our vanavasi brothers. the next steps should be schools, hospitals, jobs etc.
bravo to the vanavasi kalyan ashram for their efforts on this.
February 12th, 2006 at 11:30 am
I am grateful to RSS/VHP for organizing this kumbha mela. I am yet to understand why this english press is so anti-hindu? Dont they know Hindus comprise majority of their readers. The more they are anti-hindu, the more we feel the need to unite.
Í urge RSS/VHP continue to work for the Vanvasis and not to forget them after the Kumbh. Imparting education and a sense of self pride is the only way we can stop conversion. Jai Bharat !!
February 12th, 2006 at 8:12 pm
Mr. Rebello
It is not RSS and Gujarat Gov. which is misleading our Tribal brothers but it is people like you and your foreign funded missonaries who are destroying their and our culture. See what you have done to our North-East brothers.
In Times Of India your agent writes Vanvasis (Sorry you call them Adivasis) are not Hindus but in the same article he uses word Christian Adivasis. Great my dear, really great. Hindus are awakening now we all know your modus operandi.
Hindus beware from so called messengers of Christ.
Jai Bharat, Jai Shri Ram.
February 12th, 2006 at 10:22 pm
Great work.
Britishers branded the Vanavasis as Adivasis and made them secluded from the main stream, so that Christian Missionaries, esp. in North-eastern states, can carryout the work of conversion in the name of protecting them. RSS, VHP, BD etc. have realised the malicious, anti-national design of Britishers/ Christian Missionaries and now trying to bring the Vanavasis to the main stream, which is hampering the conversion activities.
Bravo. Concerned citizens should join hands in furthering the activities.
February 12th, 2006 at 10:38 pm
It is amazing to see the confidence and pride of our vanavasi bandhu.
Close to a million people have already passed through in the last 2 days. About 300,000 vanavasis are camping inside and in nearby places.
They feel great joy that other Hindus have recognized them and welcomed them. They are particularly annoyed by the vicious chirtian missionary propaganada, thousands are participating in the Ghar Vapasi programs on their own.
A great site to see….
February 13th, 2006 at 12:08 am
namaskar,
I am a devout hindu from Nepal,as you know Nepal is a HINDU country .First of all just let me congratulate the RSS,VHP and all the organisations in starting something which is really very much required.If we dont start acting now our GREAT religion will not be able to ward off the challange posed by the missinaries with billions of dollers and fake ploy of helping people.
About the above article(about vanavashi worshipping stone idol and saying they are not hindus),who ever wrote it is a fool because in the only HINDU kingdom in the world we worship stone idol,even LORD PASHUPATINATH,the most revered temple in the world has LORD SHIVA idol in stone.Naag devata is also very much revered and even i have a small temple in my house which is dedicated to naag devata.There was a incident in a village in nepal where a naag devata appeared in a temple and encircled the photo of the late King Birendra and stayed there for weeks and was not bothered by hundreds and thousands of people coming to see the miracle.As said by Shri Ram Madhav ji hindus are very diverse,they have different ways of worshipping the same Bhagwans and only stupid people would try to find out small differences and comment on it.Like in Nepal we have many more festivels and Nepalis are more conservative about our religion.Most nepalis perform small YAGYA in their homes in every EKADASHI.No shopkeeper can sell meat in Ekadashi,thats the government rule and nobody sells.Gau hatya is equal to killing a human being by law here.My point in saying all this is,Hindustan should have laws like this.Lets not call india.If a great country is broken into two just to seperate muslims and hindus,one becomes a muslim state called Pakistan and the other becomes a seculare state?? It’nt it unfair,how could it happen and how did the great leaders of india let it happen.India should be a Hindu state.
I am always saddened by the fact that the hinduvadi organisations of india have never turned their heads towards Nepal.We need your help to preserve our country and our religion.Please help us create a movement in Nepal to strengthen our religion and throw out the missinories.Please request GURUS like shri Morari bapu and Shri Ram dev to visit our country.Please hold such home comings in our country.Because of the Maoist rebellion our country is devastated and I believe only Unity under our religion with the Great Hindu Faith can preserve the rich heritage of our country.
We become very happy when we read about the great strides Hindustan has made Economically.Laxmi Mittal ji will soon be the richest person on this Earth.I have seen this as a victory of a Hindu mind over the conservative west.
Aapka ATI SUBHA KARYA safal ho,Shri Pashupatinath aapko shakti de!!
Jai bam bhole!!Jai Nepal!!Jai Hindustan!!
February 13th, 2006 at 3:03 am
Dear All
Please note Hindu is not a religion but a way of living. We don’t force other relgion people to convert to Hindu. Then why other relgion should convert Hindu to their releigion either by offering Money, job etc.
They want to do charity and help needy, they should without any motive.
Best regards
Swaroop Katoch
February 13th, 2006 at 11:16 am
Hunduism is the most ancient religion and practiced by over a Billion Hindus all over the world and we must say that we are proud to be Hindu.Unfortunately our number is decreasing by the day due to conversion of Hindus to Islam and christianity not only in India bur all over.
Hindus must decide and start agressively to reconvery Muslims and Christians back to Hinduism because if we fail to protect ourselves then by 2050 Hindus would be less than MUSLIMS/ CHRISTIANS in number in India. The writings are on the wall.
Inorder to acheive this we must do the followings
1. Reconvert MUSLIMS AND CHRISTIANS TO HINDUISM.
2.Compaign to expel foreign Christian and Muslim missionaries fro India.
3. Compaign to expel all illegal Muslim Bangladeshis/ Pakistanis from India.
4.There are more than 30 million Bangladeshi Muslims in India who shouls be identified, and deported back to Bangladesh.
5.Donate generously to Hindu organisations for the work they are doing for Hindus.
SAY WITH PRIDE THAT I AM A HINDU.—–Swami Vivekanand.
DR. S.SHARMA
February 13th, 2006 at 8:36 pm
Namaskar!
This is to logically question the “eye-opening” article by Mr. Rebello. Some points in his article clearly display his inability to put forward a lucid & honest line of thought. These “anomalies” are stated underneath:
1. What is the name of this “A Delhi-based voluntary organisation”?
Though the enquiry reports and comments from this organisation
are used extensively throughout the text, its name is never
given!!! Who will believe you sir, because this organisation
appears to have no credibility as it is nameless!!!
2. Since when(this ones for the “secular” forces of India!), did
we started believing in enquiries conducted by voluntary
organizations in India, when all our left wing & “secular”
forces staunchly advocate the court of law to settle our
disputes, like their proposed solution to Ayodhya issue?
3. Mr. Rebello talks about a certain “Ghar Vapsi” procedure and
then uses the following line
“Under this tribals are taken back into Hindu society.”
This line is not given in quotes, nor it is said to be in a
report. This means that this is the author’s view.
Now, if the tribals are being taken back into the hindu society,
the author aggrees with the fact that they were earlier in
the Hindu society itself!
Isn’t this a contradiction from what Mr. Rebello keeps on saying
throughout the article that tribals were never Hindus!!!?????
4. The author refers to Dang in his second paragraph as being one
of the smallest and poorest districts of Gujrat.
What relevence does this statement hold in the current context of
discussion? Anybody can also write the same sentence in context
of Christian conversions!!!
5. Another irrelevent statement-
“The Shabri Kumbh has become a sensitive issue because more
than 5 lakh tribals are expected to participate in the
festival.”
Friends, it wont be “sensitive” if 50,000 did!!! So its not about
ideology, its about numbers. It can very well reflect your
obsession with numbers Mr. Rebello!!!(of your own faith!!)
6. Mr. Hashmi has been quoted again & again in the article.
I think it is not very wise to report comments from a
person who differs in ideology to RSS, as it will be
viewed upon as something very natural and ordinary and
wont give any credence to your “thesis”. Had it come from
a person related to RSS or someone close to the Hindu cause,
people would have sat up and taken notice.(which they have
not, as is evident from scarce replies to your comment!!)
7. Please have a look at the statement below:
“Instead of building roads and bridges, providing them drinking water, health and education, Sangh organisations are dividing tribals on religious lines, the report claims.”
Do I need to explain that any addition to infrastructre, such as
building roads and bridges, is not the job of any “non-government”
organization? If the author wants some retrospection or has some
complaints regarding these issues, he should publish his article
in a public grievance forum!!!!!
And even if we stray to Mr. Rebello’s ludicrous proposition, can
anyone name a single road built by a christian missionary
organization anywhere in India???
8. An analysis of the quoted line of thought of Mr. Bharat Pawar:
(Mind the name, because it is essentially a Hindu name, and,
had he not been quoted in an article of this genre, would have
appealed to everyone as a Hindu!!)
i) He acknowledges the celebration of Dussera.
There are so many ways of celebrating Dussera in Hinduism
Mr. Rebello, that you wont ever imagine of!! Pick up
an encyclopedia and look up for Bastar and South India.
ii) He worships stones(mind you, but I bet his own people
wont like the manner in which he refers to their
deities. But leave it, it just may be a lousy translator!)
and Mother Nature. Hindus also worship stone made ‘idols’
and Devtas known as Vandevta and Vandevi.
iii) He also worships sun,moon,snakegod and do I need to emphasise
the importance of Suryadev,Chandradev and Nagdev
in Hinduism????
About Mr. Bharat Pawar’s background- he is a Majdoor Union leader,
or, simply quoted, a union leader. Do Union Leaders have any
credibility, and that too in the matter of religion??!!!!
And despite all this similarities, his Hindu name, and his
shaky credibility, he still has the cheek to say
“We are not Hindus”!!! I wonder how many people in India-
Hindus, Muslims, Christians alike will conform to his view.
Ask yourself, you’ll get the answer in a flash!
I would like to reciprocate one earlier commentor’s point
here that why are the turbulent Shias and Sunnis, Catholics &
Protestants considered the part of same religion, when the
‘never-at-arms’ hindus and vanvasis are not???
February 14th, 2006 at 6:45 pm
Mr. Valentine Rebello from United States wrote and I quote,” Over the years, India has always welcomed all the religions and lived harmoniously. Recently, some fanatic frictions of the soil, disrupting the peace and harmony in the country. I hope and pray, some sense will prevail in the minds of all the Indians to know who are responsible to create mess in the country in the name of the religion. Jai India.”
Dear Rebello, you like it when Hindus welcome all other religions and let them open up their shop and convert poor hindus by hook or crook. The game will soon be over as Hindus have now become more alert against religious aggression by christianity. Care to define fanatism? Hindus do not believe in converting non-hindus into hinduism. Hindus respect their GEETA and it is so valuable to them that they do not hand it over to non-hindu strangers in a shoppimg mall in an attempt to convert them into hindusim. The world histroy will tell you if you do not already know about crusade by christins in Latin America, Asia, Africa and other parts of the world to spread christianty.
It is Christian missionaries who is responsible to create mess in the country in the name of the religion as they are so eager to convert the whole world into christianity. Many chrsitians have approached me in college, at shopping malls and even at my door steps. I view this as a rude attempt of invasion to my faith and interference with my religious beliefs.
Where in Bible it is stated that conversion will provide you with a first class ticket to heaven? How old is Christianity? How old human race is? Who was ” in-charge” of this universe before Jesus Christ was born? Do you believe Jesus as GOD or son of GOD? If you believe him as a son of GOD, who is GOD? Hinduism goes way back for your information.
February 15th, 2006 at 5:50 am
It’s not conversion itself but to what our vanavasi brothers are lured into converting, that is dangerious. The real danger is of world taken over by semetic religions and a permanent spiritual darkness covering human civilazation for time to come (sadly with so much scientific progress, this possibility has not decreased a bit). Rather than shying away from it every hindu should be pro-active in what ever capacity he/she has in the community to covert any mleccha (semites) into hinduism. We should be like evangilical christians and only such awareness can stop this process and bring balance back in favour of spirituality.
Hari Om
February 16th, 2006 at 9:40 pm
sir,
i live in hyderbad the capital of andhra pradesh.here the chief minister happens to be a christian and so the central government’s head.so the missionaries have got the nerves to openly make propagandas about the christianity and also ridicule hinduism.so far they have succeded in converting a whole few villages into christians.so i request all the hindu groups to take some action before we become a minority in our own country.
February 17th, 2006 at 9:12 am
Clearly the Shabari Kumbha has won worldwide appreciation of the Hindus. The event has been a tremendous success in terms of the number of vanwasi brothers gathered at the Kumbha, the inspiration they have drawn from the Hindu society leaders, and the new bond of brotherhood that now binds all vanvasis and other Hindus in the going on fight with the enemies of this land.
The feeble attempts made by Ms Shabnam Hashmi and her comrades at the behest of the Church (undoubtedly in exchange of some favour) proved quite laughable. The Hindusthan Times correspondence is a known Christian hand and so are many other English press reporters.
Veerdhawal
February 18th, 2006 at 3:40 am
Missionaries full of guile and mischief are the biggest threat to Hindus today in their own homeland.
What is this Christian fad about not worshipping idols? It is a myth. Christains are very much idol-worshippers.
What is a wooden cross that is put on a pedestal and worshipped in very church? Isn’t it an idol? Why would they worship a peace of wood and light candles in front of it?
How is it different from the Hindus worshipping a wooden statue and showing reverence to it by lighting diyas (earther wick lamps)?
What about the metal cross that is carried around the necks by Christians and kissed again and again?? Why would they show so much reverence to a piece of metal? What about the statues of saints in the churches? Why would these be worshipped?? The hypocrisy of this primitive “religion” makes me sick.
Same is true with Muslims. Don’t they worship a peice of stone at Kaba??
Swami Vivekanand gave a very good response to these semitic primitive idiots who tout their ignorance as arrogance.
Once, Swamiji was visiting a small principality in India.
A Muslim courtier of the local nawab kept taunting him about idol worship. “How can you worship peices of wood or stone? What is so sacred about them?” he questioned.
Swamiji kept tolerating him. After some time, he got fed up of the ignorant lout.
Swamiji said: “Bring that framed picture of the nawab here.” The courtier obliged.
Swamiji said: “This is just a worthless peice of paper. Spit on it.”
The courtier recoiled. “This is the nawab. How can I do this?”
Swamiji said: “Exactly. Hope it has entered your brain now. This is a paper but at the same time it is much more than that. This is the bearer of the image of Nawab, due to which it has become sacred. The paper is not sacred by itself. It is treated with reverence because of the image that it represents. Got it? In the same way when an idol is worshipped, it is not the stone that is worshipped. What is being worshipped is the idea or higher being that it represents. If you doubt this, then please spit on the picture of the nawab. Otherwise, just shut up till you have evolved spiritually.”
So next time Christians and Muslims ridicule Hindus about idol worship, tell them this story and request them to evolve spiritually and outgrow these primitive desert religions that lack a spiritual core.